I am no longer replying to the thread, because there is no point, but I do want to save for posterity some of the things which were said there – such as this, by one Yew Ming Liang. “My opinion: it is of course commendable to fight for a good cause, but it is also equally important to know when to call it a day and let things take their natural course. People should not allow themselves to be blinded by their own greed and ego until they forget their raison d’être. Take, for example, certain activist groups who, after achieving their goal of equality, continued their “battle” for “empowerment” at the expense of others and, like I mentioned in my previous comment, make an issue out of everything. So there’s just a thin line that separates activists from ‘kaki auta’.
Point being, when something is wrong, then yes, we criticise, but there isn’t, then don’t try to make it sound as if it is. Let us not become like the US, where every word and action, no matter how well-meaning and harmless, can be spun into something insidious. And let’s not censor ourselves just to cater to people with weak minds. Say what needs to be said, and if they can’t take it it’s their problem.” [emphasis mine]
“People should not allow themselves to be blinded by their own greed and ego”
Who is he claiming has been blinded by greed and ego? Is it greedy to ask for a stop to offensive jokes and demeaning memes? I fail to see the greed. UNLESS, the greed he is refering to is a greed for rights and representation. Because as far as that’s concerned, then yes I am greedy. I am greedy for women to be able to feel safe everywhere, for gender or sexuality diverse, or ‘sensitive’ men to feel safe everywhere, even in ‘lad spaces’ such as MGAG. I am greedy for men to be brought up to be decent, who thinks all humans are worthy, and not just their best buddies. I am greedy for the day when I don’t have to fight these idiots anymore, when I can just be happy and be me. I don’t do any of this for my ego, and it doesn’t benefit me in any way whatsoever, I do it for the these men’s daughters, sisters, mother’s, nieces – and most important, for their wives. It is not a fight which is appreciated, but I did it for one day yesterday anyway, because I believe in the inherent good of the fight even if no one thanks me for it. None of this inflates my ego, au contraire – it totally utterly deflates it.
“after achieving their goal of equality, continued their “battle” for “empowerment” at the expense of others “
This goes back to the meme I created isn’t it. The ‘expense’ they are talking about is the allowance and space for them to belittle and demean women. They think it’s fun so they want to continue doing it, and my fierse standing up to tell them they are wrong is seen as an encroachment on their rights. Sighs.. I don’t know what to say to this, it depresses and despairs me.
“Let us not become like the US, where every word and action, no matter how well-meaning and harmless, can be spun into something insidious“
The post comparing computers weren’t well meaning and harmless. That’s the thing. Comparing women to objects harms women in the long run, continues the oppresion of women, and slows down empowerment. Within THEIR own households, in THEIR own lives, but they don’t see it. If they don’t see the harm… so be it… but can they really in good conscience call it harmeless? Again… more despair and disappointment.
For posterity’s sake, I am going to post here the advert which was taken down. The link to the mudpit where I was trollfighting is here.